Have both of these guys in my big money home league. Watching them pitch this week was a torture that even Dick Cheney would be against. 9 ER at home against the Nationals in one inning. Suppan gave up 8 in 2 or 3 innings against the Pirates. I'm not guilty of making stupid managerial decisions. Those were reasonable fifth and sixth starters to use in a 15-team mixed league. I'm not guilty, but I'm being tortured. And I'm ashamed to admit that with every walk and hit and run allowed by them and their awful bullpens, I gave up the names and credit card numbers of all my friends and family members. Anything to make it stop.
Of course, they kill you anyway.